What To Do With Sand Filter In Winter

gale

I tried to do a search simply it said the words sand and filter were too common. I've read a couple dozen threads but don't run into the answers. Nosotros have a hayward sand filter that holds about 250 lbs of sand. So I'thou guessing that stays where information technology is right? Do I have anything off of it other than the hoses that the h2o goes through? I know to accept off the drain plug but otherwise it'southward all fine to stay exterior right? We live in north key Indiana-it gets well below freezing all winter long. Nosotros're planning to put the pump and all the hoses and fittings in the basement. Practise nosotros demand to accept the height off the filter too? I don't know what the multiport/spider gasket is just I suspect information technology's beneath that handle that I use for the unlike settings on the filter? In order to remove that gasket do I have to remove that whole top thing? In that location are pictures of our filter and pump in my signature. Thanks and distressing if this is a repeat.

bk406

But remove the drain plug at the lesser, the site glass, and the force per unit area approximate. Get out the rest. Put the multiport on "Winter" and thats it.

You lot really dont need to bring the pump in. IMO, its a waste material of time and free energy. Since you have an in a higher place ground, only drain everything, and remove the plugs from the pump. Someone else who has an AGP volition be along to give you more tips.
FWIW, I alive in Massachusetts and no one that I know, without exception, takes in the pump. At that place are those on TFP that do, merely IMO its not needed.

Pathfinder

Just removing the drain plug will not sufficiently evacuate ninety% of the water still in the sand filter. To remove the remainder is to utilize a high volume shopvac to accident the filter out through your backwash line. You place your punch to Rinse and then place your vac hose on the line from the pump(leave you judge and sight drinking glass in while doing this). When blowing the air forces the water up and out. This procedure takes usually an extra v-ten minutes only it will salvage your tank from freezing expanding then bang-up.

bk406

But removing the drain plug will not sufficiently evacuate 90% of the water notwithstanding in the sand filter. To remove the residual is to utilise a high book shopvac to blow the filter out through your backwash line. Yous place your dial to Rinse and so place your vac hose on the line from the pump(leave you judge and sight glass in while doing this). When bravado the air forces the water up and out. This procedure takes commonly an actress v-ten minutes but it will save your tank from freezing expanding then cracking.

You can do that if you desire, merely it'southward not really necessery. Removing the drain plug at the bottom and letting the water bleed is fine. Now, if its already freezing and you need to get information technology out fast, sure, thats a adept way to do information technology. But just taking the plug off the bottom of the filter volition bleed the h2o just fine. By the fourth dimension y'all become a hard pipe busting freeze, the water is out.
At present, if your blowing out an inground pool, sure, throw the multiport on rinse while your blowing the lines and your practiced to become. Just, for an AGP where you dont blow the lines, letting information technology gravity drain works, IMO.

waste

Only removing the drain plug will not sufficiently evacuate 90% of the water withal in the sand filter. To remove the rest is to apply a high volume shopvac to blow the filter out through your backwash line. You lot place your dial to Rinse then place your vac hose on the line from the pump(leave you judge and sight glass in while doing this). When blowing the air forces the water up and out. This procedure takes unremarkably an extra v-ten minutes merely information technology volition salvage your tank from freezing expanding then great.

You tin do that if you want, but it's not really necessery. Removing the bleed plug at the bottom and letting the water bleed is fine. At present, if its already freezing and y'all need to get it out fast, sure, thats a good way to do information technology. Merely just taking the plug off the bottom of the filter will bleed the water merely fine. By the time yous go a hard pipe busting freeze, the water is out.
Now, if your blowing out an inground puddle, sure, throw the multiport on rinse while your blowing the lines and your proficient to go. But, for an AGP where you dont blow the lines, letting information technology gravity drain works, IMO.

Cheers bk406! :goodjob:

The gravity drain on a sand filter takes a while, just is sufficient, when done long plenty before freezing.

Pathfinder

A sand filter is a sand filter whether information technology be on an AGP or IG I advise trying my method afterwards a few days of gravity draining through the bottom. You're sure are not going to get the volume out the bottom like you would blowing information technology. Whats the impairment in taking the actress footstep & 5 mins to ensure a sand filter is tuckered properly for your client rather than but relying on a guess that the water is sufficiently drained out through the lesser. It may be sufficient for southern states simply to dismiss a proper method for everyone in freezing climates is a disservice to others on this lath.

bk406

It may exist sufficient for southern states but to dismiss a proper method for everyone in freezing climates is a disservice to others on this board.

I alive in Massachusetts, Ted was from Connecticut, now Maine. Gravity draining a sand filter is sufficient. The OP has an in a higher place ground puddle. Those pools generally do not have the lines blown out. So, for an AGP owner, it makes no sense to go to the trouble to accident out a sand filter when its not really needed. If you noticed, i did say that if you are already blowing out the lines for an IG pool, sure, put the multiport on rinse and blow information technology out. But its not necessary.

X-PertPool

Only make certain to give the filter a skilful aftermath before winterizing as this volition help the filter drain easier when the plug is pulled. I've seen some filters merely baste when the drain plug was removed considering the filter was then dirty.

Heckpools

Ive had sand filters non drain all the way and cause freeze impairment to the standpipe.
Do yourself a favor, and blow it out just incase.

Take the extra 5 minutes and protect your investment.

julieswimtown

Interesting to note: Hayward Manual for the S244T 24" 300# sand filter, states only this in their instructions for winterizing:
.
WINTERIZING
ane. Completely drain tank by unscrewing drain cap at
base of filter tank. Leave cap off during winter.
2. Depress Vari-Flo control valve handle and rotate then every bit
to fix pointer on valve superlative between whatsoever two positions.
This will allow water to bleed from the valve. Go out
valve in this "inactive" position.

In regards to the pump and bringing indoors vs. leaving out in sub freezing temps-
We just switched to a MaxFlo 2 Speed 230V pump this yr, hardwired.
Nosotros removed information technology and pulled it indoors just yesterday. My experience with winter is if winter can destroy something it will. Better safe than sorry. We also drain our puddle down below frost level...well beneath what most pros will recommend. I tried vehemently to get my other half to Non bleed it beneath about 18". He wouldn't budge. Experience, once once again, was the teacher here. In one case burned... Anyway wonder if whatsoever of y'all have any stats regarding pumps in winter...what is the fail charge per unit for pumps left out in sub freezing temps for extended length of time, college than those that were brought indoors? Is in that location such a stat out there, has anyone actually documented such a test - say similar, over a 5 year period?

X-PertPool

I can almost guarantee in that location isn't a stat out at that place; at least non official. Leaving the pump outside merely leaves it exposed to the elements more than. Also the pump is not moving for that menses of fourth dimension and so things tin can get rusty etc. Bringing information technology indoors is just a mode to avoid unnecessary exposure to the elements. Only if the motor is hardwired I would leave information technology in place as removing and re-installing wires on the pump tend to cause the wires to interruption from bending so much. So unless you programme on having the motor rewired to a uncomplicated plug outlet I would recommend a motor cover (or a waste basket from the dollar store cut to shape with a knife) Basically y'all don't want to wrap the motor in plastic as this just traps in moisture. Past having a lose fitting motor cover etc on the motor it keeps the snow and rain directly off the motor but notwithstanding allows it breathe and dry up.

pooladdict

Anyone that lives in Northern climes would be fool hardy to leave any piece of electric componenty outside exposed to the elements. I suggest to remove the Multiport completely and store it in a shed, encompass the top with an old piece of liner from when pool was installed, go out drain cap off, no antifreeze is required inside the filter with the multiport removed, water volition flow out.

linen

Mail service Posted: Oct second, 2013, 12:41 pm
Interesting to annotation: Hayward Manual for the S244T 24" 300# sand filter, states only this in their instructions for winterizing:
.
WINTERIZING
1. Completely drain tank by unscrewing drain cap at
base of filter tank. Get out cap off during winter.
2. Depress Vari-Flo control valve handle and rotate so as
to ready pointer on valve top betwixt whatsoever two positions.
This will allow h2o to bleed from the valve. Leave
valve in this "inactive" position.

I follow this for my sand filter and have had no problems (3+ years).

I bring my pump into my slightly heated garage for the winter.

julieswimtown

Thanks all for your input.
Ten-PertPool - when nosotros removed the pump, we disconnected at box - it's on it'south own out there - so the wires on the actual pump itself were not touched.
pooladdict and linen: I've heard both ways, so I'll go with the Hayward instructions this year and leave the multiport in place (volition remove the force per unit area gauge and sight drinking glass though) volition encompass the multiport and run across what happens. Snow in the forecast tomorrow :O

garybtru

Thanks all for your input.
10-PertPool - when we removed the pump, we disconnected at box - it's on it's own out at that place - and then the wires on the actual pump itself were not touched.
pooladdict and linen: I've heard both ways, then I'll go with the Hayward instructions this year and leave the multiport in place (will remove the force per unit area gauge and sight drinking glass though) will comprehend the multiport and meet what happens. Snow in the forecast tomorrow :O

Hi, I know this bulletin is several years old only I'g curious as to how this has worked out for you over the years with regard to your valve: just removing the pressure guess and sight glass, etc. Nevertheless going strong?

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